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Yigal kahana's avatar

Very nice analysis. But the premise is flawed. The “right” to self determination is a post Works War I fallacy. Societies don’t have “selves”, individual people do. Societies don’t have rights, individual people do. Self-determination only exists in Republics whose people can freely choose and change their leaders. The people of Syria don’t enjoy self-determination just because they are tyrannized by another Syrian, instead of by a Swede or a Canadian. When a whole lot of them tried to exercise their right to self determination by removing Assad, they were slaughtered. Is that self determination?? Will the people of Saudi Arabia get to self determine who their next ruler will be? Of course not. But since he is a Saudi, their rights are inviolate?? Of course not. The genesis of this problem was accepting that the idea of rights appertains to nations, instead of only to their people. Once that fatal premise was accepted, myriad political philosophy dead ends naturally followed, inevitably leading to the kinds of pretzel logic you identified here. What matters is not the nonexistent rights of nations, but the inalienable rights of every individual. When that is the first premise, everything else becomes much clearer. Will a state of Palestine be a good thing? If its citizens will have all the human rights - true religious freedom, freedom of speech, and of the press, and to sell their property to non Muslims, and the associate with whoever they want - sure. If not, not. Right now, you know what the answer is, and it has nothing to do with the ridiculous Wilsonian idea of self determination.

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Naomi Levin's avatar

I have often said they should have a state and be treated like a state. So attacking without provocation would not be terrorism or freedom fighting, but an act of war.

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